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Post by Carlin on May 13, 2020 4:27:32 GMT
This is not a shocking study for me as a dog owner as I have long said that canine puberty is as bad as any human teen but, blessedly, shorter. I do honestly think one of the reasons I never quite got Buddy over his seperation anxiety and reactivity is that I rescued him just days before he turned 7 months old. I was his third home and he had been abused in the first (the second only had him a week and a half but most likely struck him to "discipline" him). I actually allowed Buddy to go through his puberty and become a (mostly) adult dog before castration because I wanted him to get some of the gravitas of a mature dog. It has paid off and really helped him as he could be quite bullied when younger by more dominant dogs. Now I have, jokingly, dubbed him Constable Buddy at the dog parks since he makes sure that there are no conflicts and the ruffians behave, not that I totally mind as he rescued my senior Golden from an attack by a young husky male this past summer. Dogs endure emotional difficulties in puberty like humans, says study |
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Post by caryll on May 13, 2020 9:29:29 GMT
Yes, I totally agree - although anyone who has had two or more dogs from a puppy will tell you that anyway!
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Post by goodie on May 13, 2020 11:27:19 GMT
Indeed, sometimes I think studies are just thought up to occupy some people, a lot of "studies" are just what life is about.
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Post by caryll on May 13, 2020 15:23:06 GMT
It's amazing how many studies, on all sorts of things, come out & there are people saying "well, I knew that anyway!".
I think common sense is somewhat of a rarity...
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Post by Carlin on May 13, 2020 17:35:32 GMT
Indeed, sometimes I think studies are just thought up to occupy some people, a lot of "studies" are just what life is about. There was one point in the article that I think made it a worthwhile study and that is how many people tend to drop off their "teenager" dog at shelters. Sadly, not everyone who gets a dog actually shares the same perspective of having a dog and what it entails as the people who participate in this forum.
Had I been just someone wanting a dog to have a dog, when my Golden Retriever started puberty and went blind (gene defect triggered by puberty) from juvenile cataracts, I would have not be able to handle him at all. He was NOT an easy dog; hardheaded, ignored me completely, guarded trash he would randomly grab from the ground (I had to actually pin him down and pull a plastic bottle from his mouth that he had decided he was going to eat NO MATTER WHAT!!!), bullied my male cat and was, in general, quite an asshole for a time. If I was not experienced with dogs and rescue dogs before him, I might have looked for a new home that could handle him. He is now a stately gentleman of 10 years who still listens best to Mommy even if we only see each other a few times a year because he lives with my ex-husband. I solved the cat-bullying problem in a very "old school" manner: seeing he was about to charge at and bully the cat and being there the exact second with a VERY angry voice, flipped him to the floor and really corrected him verbally. He never tried anything with the cats again and would turn his head away from them even if they came near him. That is not a method I would recommend for anyone to use ever but it was the only way to get through to him at that time. (He had cataract surgery on both eyes and had his vision restored, even if it wasn't perfect - it is the most adorable thing to see him squinting!)
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Post by caryll on May 13, 2020 17:53:00 GMT
Okay, I see what you mean.
However, I'm sure you know that I couldn't condone 'pinning' a dog just to get to an end point.
I know why you did it, and I'm sure it worked, but as to good training methods? No. Not really.
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Post by Carlin on May 13, 2020 19:26:17 GMT
Okay, I see what you mean. However, I'm sure you know that I couldn't condone 'pinning' a dog just to get to an end point. I know why you did it, and I'm sure it worked, but as to good training methods? No. Not really. In the case of Sammy, I can say every other method was tested. He was/is that kind of dog. I was a proper boss once and never needed to be that way again. A similar method had been a nightmare for Buddy.
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Post by Carlin on May 14, 2020 18:17:36 GMT
Okay, I see what you mean. However, I'm sure you know that I couldn't condone 'pinning' a dog just to get to an end point. I know why you did it, and I'm sure it worked, but as to good training methods? No. Not really. When it came to Sammy (Samson) it was vital as he needed to have his impressions reduced. He needed less input, so to speak. He also needed someone who had control because he had none. He needed clear boundaries and limitations. Due to the fact that I set those boundaries when I set them and it was clear for Sammy the why, then it has been like melted butter to have him in any group. I work with children in the exact same way, though I don't use pictures for the dogs.
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