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Post by magzmoir on May 22, 2018 20:49:10 GMT
 So Luna isn't overly cuddly, yeah sure she'll lay up beside you and if shes feeling affectionate she'll try and wash your face for you but shes never been the type to lay all over you. Anyway next door have gotten their granddaughter a Lhasa Apso puppy at 4 months old and omg it does nothing but Yap and yap and yep, yap some more at every noise it hears. Anyway Luna has decided that she is afraid of it, even though shes not seen it yet, every time it starts yapping she runs in from the garden and climbs onto my lap  . This was her earlier today, laying across my legs on the sofa listening to it yammering away ! Found it quite funny that this big scary looking dog is scared of a little yippy fluff ball lol In all seriousness though she is now reaching the 8 month mark so is it likely shes going through a fear period ? Doesn't help that she was attacked by a bull-mastiff in the woods last week. Luckily I was quick to let her leash go as it barreled into her so she could outrun it. I think it just got a few mouthfuls of fur as I couldn't find any injuries just lots of slobber on her shoulder/neck and rump. Its made her wary upon meeting larger dogs and shes now having a bit of a bark and fluffing herself up to look intimidating if they seem threatening to her. Shes not lunging though or being aggressive just a bit defensive, if the other dog is nice and calm she then goes over and greets them like she used to do. |
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Post by cockneychris on May 23, 2018 5:45:31 GMT
Its such a shame that sometimes they will get attacked, it does knock their confidence for a while.
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Post by caryll on May 23, 2018 6:59:32 GMT
Could be a fear stage. Lots of support and encouragement seems the order of the day!
Why do little dogs always make so much noise? Is it the old saying about empty vessels?
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Post by gtrmacs on May 23, 2018 11:12:57 GMT
Tasha was afraid (particularly) of small dogs when we got her  A couple of teeny frenchies chased her out of the park and she ran all the way home!! Amazed me, since I hadn't realised she knew where she lived  She's much better now, especially sine we got Zena the kotteb - she's not afraid now and has several small park friends she'll happily play with. Could you get her to meet/befriend the next door dog?? Bad luck with the bull-mastiff - I'd go back to the controlled-introduction stage 'til she gets her confidence back?? |
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Post by magzmoir on May 23, 2018 12:07:32 GMT
Thanks guys, yeah I'm being supportive and if I'm at the park or public path and we meet other dogs I'm holding her collar and if shes not stressed and the other dog is calm letting them sniff each other then have a play. I've noticed that upon spotting another dog and it showing an interest in her shes coming straight to me and standing herself in between my legs lol I think the incident has knocked her confidence a wee bit as you say, we did make some progress today though, I was throwing her ball around the park and she greeted a pair of little fluffy dogs that were happily sniffing around so I was quite pleased. I will ask the neighbors if she can meet the puppy, as far as I know its quite timid itself but just barks when it hears noises outside, which is quite often considering I have 3 kids and a dog that like to play in the back garden lol
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Post by magzmoir on May 23, 2018 12:15:16 GMT
Bad luck with the bull-mastiff - I'd go back to the controlled-introduction stage 'til she gets her confidence back?? It would have been a controlled introduction if the owner hadn't been a numpty. I saw them coming at a distance and put her on her leash, the woman was having trouble getting the bullmastif to come to her so I called out to ask is he friendly. She said yes she just puts him on leash because people are scared when a big dog runs up to them. I relaxed thinking it was just coming over to say hello when it started coming towards us, unfortunatley it had other things on its mind and just went straight at her trying to grab hold of her. Thats when I let her go so she could escape. The woman didnt even apologise just said oh he must be being protective .... I didn't say a word as nothing civil would have passed my lips at that point. I suppose I learned a lesson though, not to trust someone just because they say their dog is friendly, its a shame because most probably are but its a risk I dont really want to take. |
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Post by cockneychris on May 23, 2018 14:43:08 GMT
Its circumstances going on in the dogs head that you are not privy to. You cant second guess with accuracy i'm afraid. Its like somebody in their car with the indicator on, it doesn't mean they are necessarily turning but just means the bulb works.
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Post by magzmoir on Jun 13, 2018 21:29:54 GMT
   So sitting in the living room with Luna and hear a yap yap in the house ! deffo not my dog lol looks over at the kitchen gate and the lhasa pup from next door is standing there wagging its tail at us ! It squeezed under the gate between our gardens and invited itself in rofl. This was the resulting impromptu play date, check out the big goof ball So shes decided that the puppy is fun to play with but few days ago we were walking the same route she was attacked on and met a lab who wanted to come greet her, she bolted in terror all the way to back to the other end of the path squealing the whole way, freaked out at 3 other dogs we met then met a dog she knows and she was jumping all over him and stealing his toy  I really dont know how to deal with her at the moment shes terrified one on one meeting other dogs when we are out walking unless she knows them, but I can take her to the park and throw her ball around alongside the local dog walkers with a pack of 10+ dogs and she doesn't bat an eyelid. |
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Post by jenna53 on Jun 14, 2018 6:23:43 GMT
It is a difficult time. My last shep was also attacked by a bull mastiff when she was 8 months old and after several other not very good experiences she became totally dog reactive on lead. Never really got over it totally but very slowly improved as she got older. Could never directly walk past another dog though - had to be the other side of the road.
Kira had a bad experience the other night, but I'll put that in a separate post.
Sounds like your Luna is going through it - you have to be her eyes and be extra wary of dogs you don't know.
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Post by magzmoir on Jun 14, 2018 8:35:06 GMT
She is going through something that's for sure, its the inconsistency that gets me though, shes ok some times, very playful with dogs she knows (so much so she can be a nuisance) and fine in a group where she pretty much ignores the other dogs but mixes in with them, but out walking normally and we meet a single dog she doesn't know and she runs for the hills squealing One thing I have found is that if I take her out and really tire her out playing fetch and we then meet a strange dog while walking around and shes just walking with me carrying her ball,she seems fine, a bit wary but not so terrified that she runs away and sounds like the other dog is attacking her. Its really horrible the noise she makes is gut wrenching she is genuinely terrified. |
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Post by caryll on Jun 14, 2018 9:48:32 GMT
I wonder if it would help to liberally spray a bandana with Adaptil spray? It might take the edge off her fear.
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Post by magzmoir on Jun 14, 2018 11:52:08 GMT
I wonder if it would help to liberally spray a bandana with Adaptil spray? It might take the edge off her fear. I've never considered using any of the sprays or plug in type things, I always thought they were just a con but I've never tried them (never had a reason to) so dont know if they work or not, if they do work I would use it as a short term aid. |
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Post by caryll on Jun 16, 2018 22:07:56 GMT
They do actually work (been there, done that) as they're based on appeasement pheromones that are released by a bitch when she is nursing a litter - makes them feel safe.
Worth a try.
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Post by flossie on Jun 18, 2018 13:40:46 GMT
Poor Luna - it's awful when that happens and people allow dogs off lead when the dog can't be trusted with others. It spoils future walks for our dogs and for us.
There was a bloke with a large Malamute walking the opposite side of the road when I was walking Logan this morning and it reared up growling twice. Thank God he was on the lead!
I hope Kira is doing ok after her bad experience Jenna.
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Post by magzmoir on Sept 21, 2018 11:50:09 GMT
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A couple of teeny frenchies chased her out of the park and she ran all the way home!! Amazed me, since I hadn't realised she knew where she lived 
