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Post by Carlin on Jun 6, 2020 14:59:31 GMT
No, breeders should not be outlawed but I would welcome permits for them and mandatory castration for pets not meant for breeding.
Sweden has finally done this for cats. Any cat allowed outdoors must be chipped and castrated.
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Post by caryll on Jun 6, 2020 18:50:16 GMT
No, breeders should not be outlawed but I would welcome permits for them and mandatory castration for pets not meant for breeding. Sweden has finally done this for cats. Any cat allowed outdoors must be chipped and castrated. No! Why should responsible owners neuter against their own well researched views? That is NOT the answer. There are a lot of cons against neutering - why do people only latch on to the pros without research?
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Post by Carlin on Jun 6, 2020 23:25:51 GMT
I have seen so animals "free to good home" who have ended up being tortured or snake food. I have seen so animals abused in ways that make you want to vomit. My own Buddy was beaten to the point that if he heard a man sneeze he would wet himself. I respect honest and responsible breeders but they are so far removed that they are no longer the norm, if they ever were. People just do not have the kind of respect they should for animals.
I will never forget the day my father called the police to report seeing a dog get hit by a car and injured terribly to the point it had its intestines exposed but the police said animal welfare would have to deal with the situation because they were too busy. We took that poor dog in our car to the first vet we found in a strange city. I was 8 years old. He'd had no collar and this was before chips. We paid for him to be put down because he was in misery with no chance to recover. That was in the USA. I will not even mention what I have seen in Greece where poison is the usual method of animal control.
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Post by Carlin on Jun 6, 2020 23:36:55 GMT
Please do not take this personally. I have this as a general stance when it comes to animal welfare. After my personal experiences I have chosen to only have rescue animals and always castrate my pets to prevent unwanted litters. Samson, my Golden, was an exception which I regret for my sake, not his. The vet who treated his juvenile cataracts actually praised me for seeing his disorder so quickly and we made sure he was castrated so as to not accidentally spread bad genes further.
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Post by caryll on Jun 7, 2020 6:43:01 GMT
Please do not take this personally. I have this as a general stance when it comes to animal welfare. After my personal experiences I have chosen to only have rescue animals and always castrate my pets to prevent unwanted litters. Samson, my Golden, was an exception which I regret for my sake, not his. The vet who treated his juvenile cataracts actually praised me for seeing his disorder so quickly and we made sure he was castrated so as to not accidentally spread bad genes further. I accept and understand your reasons. But I will never neuter 'as a matter of course'. I consider myself a responsible owner & as such I have a duty of care to my dogs not to put them under the surgeon's knife if it is unnecessary. Early neutering causes more problems than it solves, and routinely neutering a nervous dog can cement that nervousness in for life. A common myth is that spaying stops pyometra. It doesn't. A bitch can suffer from 'stump' pyometra which is difficult to detect & therefore more deadly. Several cancers are connected to neutering. Urinary incontinence is common in neutered dogs. Failure to grow properly is common in early neutered dogs. Neutering doesn't solve behavioural problems. And nobody should 'accidentaly' mate their dog. 99% of all 'accidental' matings were down to owners' own faults.
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Post by Carlin on Jun 7, 2020 7:15:50 GMT
Samson was 18 months and Buddy 20 months when they were castrated so they were "adult" dogs though neither was truly mature until after 3 years of age. Buddy genuinely suffered when females were in season and could go over a month without eating properly. Neither dog has exhibited physical ailments after castration.
Buddy's seperation anxiety was fastly cemented before he was castrated. I do not believe that castration has affected him in that regard. It has made him calmer with regards to meeting other dogs.
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Post by caryll on Jun 7, 2020 7:59:56 GMT
But you're advocating mandatory neutering & I cannot agree with that. 18 months in a large breed is not mature, neither physically nor mentally. I'm not criticising you - you made a conscious decision - I'm saying that mandatory neutering is totally wrong.
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